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Old 15th October 2021, 10:16 AM
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saving a bit as looking at Long Range model rather than performance, just wish they did a SILVER wheel option.
Long range wheels are silver, or did I miss something ?
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The First 20 Audis:

2001 D2 4.2 QS Silver, 1997 D2 S8 Silver, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2002 D2 S8 Dolphin Grey,
2003 C5 RS6 Blue, 1998 D2 S8 Black, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue, 2003 D3 4.2 Ming Blue,
2005 B7 S4 Blue, 2006 D3 3.0 Tdi Black, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2003 D3 4.2 LPG Crystal Blue,
2000 D2 S8 Silver, 2007 3.0 Tdi Q7 Black, 2009 B8 S4 Black, 1998 D2 S8 Agate Grey,
2006 D3 4.2 Tdi Blue, 2006 D3 S8, 2007 Q7 3.0 Tdi, 2006 C6 S6,

The Second 20 Audis:

2011 A7 Sline, 2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2002 A2 1.4 Tdi Silver, 2006 A8 4.2 Tdi Blue,
2007 4.2 Tdi Q7, 2006 S4 Cab Silver, 2010 RS6 Saloon Black , 2007 TT Roadster,
2010 A8 D4 4.2 Silver, 2006 C6 A6 2.7 Tdi Quattro, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue (again), 2008 Q7 4.2 Black,
2009 C6 RS6 Saloon Daytona Grey, 2001 Fully Loaded A2 Tdi, 2006 Avant S6 Black, 2007 VW Caravelle Exec Black (almost an Audi)
2009 TT Roadster Daytona, 2015 Q7 4.2 tdi lava grey, 2002 GmbH D2 demonstrator, 2006 D3 A8 LWB 4.2 Tdi Black

Most Recent Audis:

2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2007 4.2 FSi Q7 ABT Blue, 2016 S5 Coupe Launch model, 2004 S4 B6 Cabriolet, 2016 Q7 Sline White, 2006 Q7 4.2 FSi Black, 2012 Q7 Sline+ 4.2Tdi White

Everything Else

1989 Subaru Justy, 1986 Vauxhall Cartlton 2.0 GL, 1985 Vauxhall Carlton 2.2 CDi, 1987 Ford Sierra XR4x4, 1983 Vauxhall Senator, 1985 Vauxhall Senator 3.0i, 1997 Polo Saloon, 1997 Peugeot 306 1.9 TDi, Ford Sierra Sapphire 2000E, 1990 Subaru Justy, 2000 Subaru Impreza, 2000 Subaru Impreza RB5, 1993 Range Rover LSE, 2005 VW Bora, 2003 Skoda Superb, 2003 VW Passat V6 4 Motion, 1996 Peugeot 106, 2000 Range Rover 4.0, 2019 Tesla Model 3 Performance
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Old 15th October 2021, 10:17 AM
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Do you not think a significant amount of X owners will sway towards the Y as well?

UK buyers are now accustomed to that commanding SUV driving position, and that's only been offered at a price in excess of 100,000... until now.

Is it fair to see it as a 'mini X'?
Yes. Although - as you pointed out, it's at a completely different - mass market-ish - price point. The Model X really is a bit of a niche product, and the general consensus is the Y will be Tesla's biggest seller across Europe.

For me, the issue is less about cannibalising Model 3 sales (which it will do, but not to a large extent, IMO), but more about it attracting non-Tesla owners to an SUV product.

This is a really key segment in the UK, and there are a number of other SUV EVs starting to be offered by competitors - e.g. the wife of a Model S buddy of mine has just taken delivery of a Q4 e-tron (the first 'decent' Audi EV, in my opinion) - though he's expecting to swap that out for a Model Y when that arrives in the right form.

So it's good to have some decent choice, at last!
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(3) 1997 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: Scots (! ) Green. Fragile, but beautiful.
(4) 2010 Fiat Panda 100HP. White Pandamonium (Final Edition!!). Pure old-fashioned 6-speed go-karting.
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Old 15th October 2021, 10:36 AM
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Long range wheels are silver, or did I miss something ?
They offer silver sofa castors on each corner, but the decent size wheels are darker
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Old 15th October 2021, 12:23 PM
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I've confirmed just now with Tesla Manchester staff that this will be the Chinese (or possibly US...) built MY, with the "old" battery, & that the German-built ones won't arrive till the end of 2022, so I'm out, for now.
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(1) 2015 Tesla Model S: (was 85D, now 90D ). Silent and deadly, and very fast... But not as fast as Ian's M3P-
(2) 2002 D2 S8 Final Edition: Bulletproof and faultless: Brilliant Black with Extended (Red!) Leather. Three-times winner of Best D2 1st prize
(3) 1997 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: Scots (! ) Green. Fragile, but beautiful.
(4) 2010 Fiat Panda 100HP. White Pandamonium (Final Edition!!). Pure old-fashioned 6-speed go-karting.
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Old 18th October 2021, 09:38 AM
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First review I've seen of Model Y

https://youtu.be/NDjS2ayi9Tg

Not a great review, albeit with interesting comment about the improved build quality on the China-built car
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2014 BMW X5 3.0d M Sport SOLD 2017
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Old 27th October 2021, 02:01 PM
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They've got the battery tech, but other manufacturers, Audi for example have got a lot of experience building cars, lightweight construction, ASF etc..

Audi have the battery tech in place, but they're not rushing into it. People get into an Audi and expect it to work, with a a Tesla, they know they're taking a punt on some new tech.

I really can't see what the attraction'll be once more established brands have the battery tech launched.
Well, the above 2015 comment early on in this thread hasn't stood the test of time very well, and Hertz can clearly see what the attraction is (100,000 times ) :

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...arket-shake-up
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(1) 2015 Tesla Model S: (was 85D, now 90D ). Silent and deadly, and very fast... But not as fast as Ian's M3P-
(2) 2002 D2 S8 Final Edition: Bulletproof and faultless: Brilliant Black with Extended (Red!) Leather. Three-times winner of Best D2 1st prize
(3) 1997 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: Scots (! ) Green. Fragile, but beautiful.
(4) 2010 Fiat Panda 100HP. White Pandamonium (Final Edition!!). Pure old-fashioned 6-speed go-karting.
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Old 27th October 2021, 02:07 PM
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Mint sounds expensive but considering you get tyres at good prices maybe maybe they can fit my budget.
I've just PM'ed you, as I've now put the larger (21") winters on my Model S...
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Autos Autos everywhere...
(1) 2015 Tesla Model S: (was 85D, now 90D ). Silent and deadly, and very fast... But not as fast as Ian's M3P-
(2) 2002 D2 S8 Final Edition: Bulletproof and faultless: Brilliant Black with Extended (Red!) Leather. Three-times winner of Best D2 1st prize
(3) 1997 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: Scots (! ) Green. Fragile, but beautiful.
(4) 2010 Fiat Panda 100HP. White Pandamonium (Final Edition!!). Pure old-fashioned 6-speed go-karting.
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Old 16th December 2021, 02:58 PM
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Old 24th January 2022, 05:41 PM
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Default Try doing this at any Audi (or any other...) main dealer

So...I thought I'd share my Tesla recall experience today, which was a world away from what I used to get at Audi (Smith Knight Fay/Inchcape) with my Audi S8.

I got an email this morning from Tesla about a bonnet latch recall: non-urgent, not major, and my second recall in six years - the other being for the passenger airbag, which was fixed by a Tesla "mobile ranger" whilst I was charging at a Tesla supercharger and either working on my laptop, or drinking beer in the hotel bar - I can't remember which now .

Anyway, this is a summary of the steps in this process from start to end today - none of which bear any resemblance to my old "main dealer" experiences:

1) Take (about) a minute to schedule a service appointment with the App on my mobile,
2) Get confirmation on the App within seconds, and also via text/email,
3) Drive for 20 minutes to the store. On approach, Tesla "sees" my car in its "geocache" area, and sends a "thank you" to my App and also by text,
4) Get out of my car - and go into the store if I want, and help myself to the free wifi, coffee, biscuits, fruit, etc, and chat with the store staff (if I wish). No need to handover car keys, wait for anyone to come & speak to you, etc, etc, as they already have access to my car. Or head to the pub instead ,
5) Sit and do some work for 30 minutes, with my coffee & biscuits,
6) Get a confirmation text that the work has been done and my car is ready, along with a pin code to allow me to access/unlock the car,
7) Drive home with the app and car updated, and with my car fully charged again.

Simples. Never going back to Audi - or anyone else for that matter.
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Autos Autos everywhere...
(1) 2015 Tesla Model S: (was 85D, now 90D ). Silent and deadly, and very fast... But not as fast as Ian's M3P-
(2) 2002 D2 S8 Final Edition: Bulletproof and faultless: Brilliant Black with Extended (Red!) Leather. Three-times winner of Best D2 1st prize
(3) 1997 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: Scots (! ) Green. Fragile, but beautiful.
(4) 2010 Fiat Panda 100HP. White Pandamonium (Final Edition!!). Pure old-fashioned 6-speed go-karting.
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Old 25th January 2022, 12:23 AM
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I had quite opposite experience.

Warning came up on dash that 12V battery need to be replaced soon. Raised service request in app asking how much for just the battery or how much to supply and fit. App said somebody will get back to me within 2 hours. Kept checking app, no update in app, no emails, no phone calls, after about 4 days my request disappeared from app.

Whatever, I will just measure up battery myself and get generic battery somewhere else. It's just a small AGM deep cycle lead acid 12V 33Ah battery.
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