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Old 14th May 2016, 07:26 AM
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Anyone know what 5f unit is required for google earth with Sim slot

if you have google earth working on 3G whats your h/w and s/w revisions for 5f

or does anyone have it working on the older units with 2G, Does it work well?
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Old 14th May 2016, 09:18 AM
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No idea, but can you introduce the new 'lady' please?
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Old 14th May 2016, 09:21 AM
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of course how rude of me

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Old 14th May 2016, 01:13 PM
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I had Google maps working fine on my original MMI unit, which had a maps and firmware update from the dealer when I bought the car. It had a built in SIM slot, but I used RSAP to connect via the SIM in my phone.

It only connected as 2G (GPRS) speeds, but for maps it worked just fine.

VCDS Scan of that unit is here:
Code:
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 035 670 P    HW: 4H0 035 670 
   Component: H-BNT-EU      H48 0798  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: xxxxx
   Coding: 020101000001F9EF75168B1E00000003000001000000000000


   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 CH
   Component: EUR 2014  2004 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 393 AH    HW: 4F0 862 393 E
   Component: BTHS  H24 0750 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H0 919 604 B    HW: 4H0 919 604 B
   Component: DU8 D4 SV NB  H44 0021 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H2 919 600 H    HW: 4H2 919 600 B
   Component: E380 BDT D4  H09 0065 

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 
   Component: CD-Database  1886
Audi changed the 5F unit to a newer one (at great expense it seems), which now connects a 3G speeds, maps works just the same (maybe loads faster, not really so as you would notice) but they forgot to do a maps update - which they will do when they next see the car

Scan of the "new" 5F module here:
Code:
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 035 654     HW: 4H0 035 670 C
   Component: H-BNT-EU      H43 0939  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: XXXX
   Coding: 020101000001F9EF7516AB1E00000003000001000000000000
   

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 AH
   Component: EUR 2012  1308 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 393 AH    HW: 4F0 862 393 E
   Component: BTHS  H24 0750 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H0 919 604 B    HW: 4H0 919 604 B
   Component: DU8 D4 SV NB  H44 0021 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H2 919 600 H    HW: 4H2 919 600 B
   Component: E380 BDT D4  H09 0065 

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 C
   Component: CD-Database  3638 

No fault code found.
If you don't have a SIM slot, I believe that you can re-code and use WiFi to connect via your mobile or alternatively you can plug a USB dongle in via the AMI. Have a read on the A5OC, lot's of detail on there

If you do have a SIM slot, it is as simple as firmware update and a bit of coding
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Old 14th May 2016, 04:05 PM
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Thanks Paul that's great advice

I do have the sim slot so looks like I need the firmware update.

Good to know. I have it booked in to be done in a couple of weeks
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Old 14th May 2016, 08:23 PM
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No problem at all, the 2G vs 3G speed thing was more of a niggle than anything, but they agreed to fix it as part of a number of things they had to sort out, it was an approved used car but it wasn't warranty work - they did it as good will.

If it was my own money I'd already spoken with Hazzydayz, they would have replaced the components within my original 5F unit for a few hundred quid which would have been much more palatable, but as a main dealer they didn't have that option so had to swap the full unit - the rough cost of the new 5F unit was over 3k
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Old 14th May 2016, 08:26 PM
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Forgot to mention, the only thing I don't have working is Google Traffic, I coded it in but because my car VIN wasn't on the Audi servers it wouldn't sync. You can change the VIN in software in the 5F to get around this (clone a car that is eligible) but as I still get traffic info via TMC and as they still need to do a software update for me, I haven't bothered.
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Old 14th May 2016, 11:37 PM
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thats great info

Will try the firmware update and see how it goes, if Google earth works as well on 2G its good enough for me. if not will visit Hazzydays, they seem to know their stuff there, and can unbrick mmi's too
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What do you mean 2G ? No D4 has 2G they have 3G+ high and low... you will have a 3G+ low prep. In that case you will need the same as me K900 software

If you need help let me know. I have all the maps and new software and can update it for you if you wish
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The early D4's have 2G Mobile service, not 2G MMI.....

This thread is about upgrading the radio gear to 3G mobile service which is needed for the google maps 3G+ MMI update to be truly useful...
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