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Old 21st June 2014, 12:15 PM
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Ok, the warning came on ... Can't see what the big deal is to change the oil. So off to my favorite, Kwick Fit ...

They did the change, but I noticed the guy on the diagnostics terminal so I popped round. He was saying I think this has worked. I got on the MMI and showed him the service setting, reset nicely no problem.

Switched to the Oil level .. Oh dear, overfilled. So fair dues, he immediately shut down the engine, tried to suck some oil out, no go as their oil sucker pipe was too big. drained some oil down through the sump plug and topped it back up.

Everything A OK.

Apparently their manual says 8.2L but in reality it should be 7.5L with a top up. So watch out for that one.

Anyway ...total bill for the oil change = 53

So I'm happy with that.
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Old 23rd June 2014, 11:44 AM
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Kwik Fit for a oil change on a D4?
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Old 15th July 2014, 01:57 PM
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Kwik Fit for a oil change on a D4?
Why not? it is only oil a filter and a new washer?

Better than 300+ from Audi.
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Why not? it is only oil a filter and a new washer?

Better than 300+ from Audi.
That is true but they did over fill it.

I would not KW with a BMX.
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Old 15th July 2014, 02:22 PM
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That is true but they did over fill it.
And who knows what quality oil and filter they used. Besides that oil service at dealer is just called oil service but includes many other things they check and lubricate

Edit: Not specific to D4 but this is example service checklist for older Audi's on Longlife service intervals. Now it's all online and computer prints out joblist depending on model, previous service history and mileage, time since last service.

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LongLife Service

Every 60,000 km
In addition to LongLife Service:
Multitronic gearbox: renew ATF

Every 90,000 km
In addition to LongLife Service:
Toothed belt and tensioning roller for camshaft drive: Replace
(4-cyl. TDI pump jet engines)

Every 120,000 km
In addition to LongLife Service:
Toothed belt: Replace (6-cyl. 5V, 2.4 litre; 3.0l engines)
Toothed belt for camshaft and injection pump: Replace (V6 TDI engines)

Every 180,000 km
In addition to LongLife Service:
Toothed belt: Replace (4-cyl. 5V, 1.8 litre turbo engines)
Toothed belt: Replace (4-cyl. 5V, 2.0 litre engines)
Toothed belt: Replace (4-cyl. 4V, 2.0 litre engines)

Every 24 months
In addition to LongLife Service:
Brake fluid: Change

After the first 36 months, then every 24 months
Exhaust emissions test

Every 48 months
In addition to LongLife Service:
Telematics: Replace emergency backup battery

Work to be completed

Electrical System

Check operation of front lights: Side lights, dipped beam, main beam, front fog lights, turn signals, hazard warning lights

Check operation of rear lights: Brake lights (incl. high-level brake light), rear lights, reversing lights, rear fog light, number plate light, turn signals, hazard warning lights, luggage compartment light (several lights)

Interior lights and glove compartment light, warning lamps, horn: Check function

Convertible top: Check function
Note: With convertible top open, rollover protection: Check function (every 2 years)

Self-diagnosis: Interrogate fault memory with fault reader V.A.G 1551 or VAS 5051

Service display: Reset; LongLife

Telematics: Renew the emergency backup battery (every 48 months)

Vehicle, from outside

Tailgate/boot lid hinges: Lubricate. up to chassis no. > 080 000 model year 02

Door arrester, lock cylinder and bonnet release catch: Lubricate

Sun roof: Check function, clean guide rails and spray with lubricating spray

Windscreen wiper and washer system and headlight washer system: Check washer jet settings

Wiper blade park position: Check

Wiper blades: Check for damage

Tyres

Tyres, spare wheel: Check condition and wear pattern; record tread depths

Tyres, FL: Check condition and wear pattern; record tread depths

Tyres, RL: Check condition and wear pattern; record tread depths

Tyres, RR: Check condition and wear pattern; record tread depths

Tyres, FR: Check condition and wear pattern; record tread depths

Tyre repair set: Check expiry date

Vehicle, from below

Engine, gearbox, final drive, steering and protective boots: Visual check for leaks and damage

Multitronic gearbox: Renew ATF

Engine oil: Drain or extract, change oil filter

Manual gearbox/final drive: Check oil level and top up if necessary
Final drive (automatic gearbox): Check oil level and top up if necessary

Brake system (from below): Visual check for leaks and damage

Brake pads: Check thickness

Underseal: Visual check for damage

Exhaust system: Visual check for leaks and damage, check that parts are properly secured

Track rod ends: Check play, attachment and protective boots

Ball joints: Check protective boots for leaks and damage

Engine compartment

Engine (from above) and engine compartment: Visual check for leaks and damage

Engine oil: Fill

Battery with magic eye: Check display and top up with distilled water, if necessary

Windscreen/headlight washer system: Top up fluid

Cooling system: Check antifreeze and coolant level/antifreeze specified value -25 �C;
Actual value (measured value):

Hydraulic system: Check for leaks, check fluid level and top up hydraulic fluid if necessary

Air cleaner: Clean housing and replace filter element

Spark plugs: Replace

Fuel filter: Replace

Dust and pollen filter: Replace

Toothed belt for camshaft drive: Check for damage and check tension

Toothed belt for injection pump: Check for damage and tension, adjust toothed belt tension - additional work

Toothed belt: Replace - additional work
Toothed belt and tensioning roller for camshaft drive: Replace (1.9 litre TDI pump jet) - additional work

Toothed belt and tensioning roller for camshaft drive and toothed belt for injection pump: Replace - additional work

Poly V-belt for alternator: Replace - additional work

Change brake fluid (every 2 years) - additional work
Note: Never remove strainer from brake fluid reservoir

Concluding work

Tyre pressures on all 4 wheels and spare wheel: Check

Tyre pressures on all 4 wheels and spare wheel: Check
Store modified tyre pressure values in driver information system (DIS)
See Owner's Manual "(DIS) store tyre pressures"

Headlights: Check settings and adjust if necessary (ellipsoid headlights)

Headlights: Check settings and adjust, if necessary (gas discharge headlights)

Test drive: Perform
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Old 16th July 2014, 01:33 AM
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Why not? it is only oil a filter and a new washer?

Better than 300+ from Audi.
I doubt it, the additional depreciation lost because of a KwikFit 'service' history will cost you more in the long run, plus untold problems caused by lower quality components and fluids probably fitted by a spotty teenager just out of school.

If you want to save money, go for it, but not KwikFit and their like, at least find a decent indy, I wouldn't let them anywhere near any of my cars, not ever.
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Old 16th July 2014, 07:37 AM
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Two true Kwik Fit stories:

1. Some time ago I took my D2 to a local indy for a few jobs, including a wheel alignment check.

When I picked it up, the 'alignment' had resulted in a car that didn't feel right and a steering wheel that was miles off 'straight'.

When challenged, the indy confessed that their alignment machine was faulty, so they'd sent the car to the local Kwik Fit! The indy sorted it properly on their, now working, machine and gave me a refund.

2. Many, many moons ago, I drove a Triumph Spitfire and got a puncture. So I swapped it for the spare and took the punctured wheel into Kwik Fit for repair. Picked it up a day later and went to put it back on the car as the 'spare' was a little lacking in tread.

It didn't fit! Clearly, they'd mixed my wheel up with one from another car. They assured me they knew which car had got my wheel and they'd get it swapped. But after 2 months of fobbing me off with one excuse after another, I insisted that they bought me a new wheel and tyre - which they eventually did.

But I always wondered about the poor sod who had my Spitfire wheel as a spare in his boot. He probably got a puncture one dark, wet night, went to put the spare on and it didn't fit!

The moral of this story is "You can't get better than a Kwik Fit f**k-up".
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My summer toy is a Porsche Boxster 987 3.2S, the perceived wisdom to stop the engines going 'bang' is to double up on oil changes. It's relatively common practice for us to use Kwik Fit for this as they usually use Mobil 1 fully synthetic and an OEM filter, all for 25-33% of the price of an OPC.
Kwik Fit use an oil change as a loss leader to get you in the door in the hope of getting other, more profitable,work whilst you are there).

I wouldn't use them for a proper service, however, for an oil change, it's a no brainer.

I hang around whilst they do it though.

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My summer toy is a Porsche Boxster 987 3.2S, the perceived wisdom to stop the engines going 'bang' is to double up on oil changes. It's relatively common practice for us to use Kwik Fit for this as they usually use Mobil 1 fully synthetic and an OEM filter, all for 25-33% of the price of an OPC.
Kwik Fit use an oil change as a loss leader to get you in the door in the hope of getting other, more profitable,work whilst you are there).

I wouldn't use them for a proper service, however, for an oil change, it's a no brainer.

I hang around whilst they do it though.

I know about this as a previous Boxster owner too.

However, both my local indy and local OPC would both price match - an oil service at Solihull OPC for the same price as KwikFit, now that was a no brainer!

There have also been instances reported on boxa.net about KF messing up Boxster services, overfilling being quite common, but also doubts whether it is actually Mobil 1 being used
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That's (good) news to me about an OPC price matching on an oil change.

Re the Mobil One, I've absolutely no doubt that that's what my local Kwik Fit used on mine.

You got a link to Boxa for that one?
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