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Echo 27th February 2021 09:23 PM

Mmi 2g update - optic loop?
 
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Hi everyone.

when updating the MMI 2G software/firmware, is it still a wise choice to use an optic loop on the DSP AMP to avoid component protection?

Or, is there a de-select option in the red menu before you hit the start button?

Here is my MMI version.........no laughing at the back!

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614464619

I have genuine Audi dealer discs:

4E0 906 961 H - 1 CD.

4L0 998 961 - 3 CD's.

Are these all I need for the 5570 update from my 07.7.0?

I also have an optic loop if needed.

Also, as I don't have a phone in the car, I can skip CD 2 of the 3 set.......yes/no?

Thanks.

homer simpson 28th February 2021 12:31 PM

Yes you can skip CD2 as it's for the phone/bluetooth. I'm not sure what used to cause the component protection, but I think it was CD2 which would cure itself once you run the disc again

paulrstaylor 28th February 2021 03:32 PM

From memory, bose or b&o amps might go into component protection or even get bricked when upgraded, so best to unselect the amp 👍

Echo 28th February 2021 09:52 PM

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Yes, thank you Mr Simpson & Paul.

I couldn't reply earlier today as the forum was down (well for me anyway), and I couldn't see your posts, so I just went for it.

I decided to use the optical loop on the DSP amp to avoid the component protection, hopefully.........

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614548467

Started with the 4E0 906 961 H disc.

This was the update list..........

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614548796

What's IDC?

Also, the Nav wasn't included in the update?

Maybe it'll be included in the later discs. No, not there either!

Anyway, that finished and I then ran 1 & 3 of the 3 disc set: 4L0 998 961.

Left number 2 out with not having the phone.

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614552272

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614552336

Not sure what the 'S' means?

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614552427

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614552499

And this is what I ended up with............

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614549306

The SW 'VERSION' isn't on the bottom right of the MMI 'car' screen anymore, it's in the 'car' settings now, don't know why.

Took about 1 1/2 hours, but I was so relieved :)

The radio and speakers seem ok, so looks like the optical loop worked then!

Did a VCDS scan and there were some fault codes, but mainly for the loop when I took it out the DSP and put it back again. Also, fault codes for no sound, well there wouldn't be would there, with no amp showing, so just cleared them, and final scan showed they'd been rectified.

I'm just concerned about the Nav though. Why didn't it update with the other stuff? Anyone got an answer for that one?

I had already bought a 2019 - 2020 map DVD:

https://www.satnavishop.co.uk/2018-2...disc-128-p.asp

I swapped it with the old 2004 DVD, but all I got was this........

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614550476

So I put the old one back, which is working fine, though outdated.

Very pleased that the update to 5570 went well, but a bit miffed at the Nav bit.

Many thanks for your help.

Architex_mA8tey 1st March 2021 10:37 AM

My take on the nav is that the older drives seem to have a problem running newer nav upated discs for some reason which may possibly be due to wear or other issues with the nav unit laser. I had the same issue with my 2005 early FL D3 not liking newer nav updates either despite running the updated MMi software. I sent for a couple of chinese laser pickups for the maps drive and didnt get around to changing them yet ut was hoping that might solve the issues +++

paulrstaylor 1st March 2021 11:33 AM

Is the new disk by any chance a copy? I have memories of similar issues, I did replace a laser, it was a PITA but it worked.... for a while!

homer simpson 1st March 2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Echo (Post 163585)

I'm just concerned about the Nav though. Why didn't it update with the other stuff? Anyone got an answer for that one?

I had already bought a 2019 - 2020 map DVD:

https://www.satnavishop.co.uk/2018-2...disc-128-p.asp

I swapped it with the old 2004 DVD, but all I got was this........

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1614550476

So I put the old one back, which is working fine, though outdated.

Very pleased that the update to 5570 went well, but a bit miffed at the Nav bit.

Many thanks for your help.

By Nav update, do you mean the maps? 2018 was the last official release so that one you linked will be 2018. There is a thread on here which had the maps on which you can download and burn a copy yourself. I did mine and it's still working over 2 years later. Possibly the old drive doesn't like it. I would send the disc back and get a refund. If you are stuck, I can burn you a copy and post it to you

Echo 1st March 2021 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey (Post 163593)
My take on the nav is that the older drives seem to have a problem running newer nav upated discs for some reason which may possibly be due to wear or other issues with the nav unit laser. I had the same issue with my 2005 early FL D3 not liking newer nav updates either despite running the updated MMi software. I sent for a couple of chinese laser pickups for the maps drive and didnt get around to changing them yet ut was hoping that might solve the issues +++

Oh, right, I didn't know there was a problem with the nav player in these cars.

I just thought the MMI update would update the nav player so you could load a newer map DVD in it, but it's not even selected in the list.......just my way of thinking.

Echo 1st March 2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by paulrstaylor (Post 163596)
Is the new disk by any chance a copy? I have memories of similar issues, I did replace a laser, it was a PITA but it worked.... for a while!

Well, the link to the satnavishop seems to have pretty good feeback, but I presume they are copies. Obviously cheaper, compared to the dealer prices

Messing about with lasers? I wouldn't know what to do I'M afraid :Confused:

Echo 1st March 2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by homer simpson (Post 163597)
By Nav update, do you mean the maps? 2018 was the last official release so that one you linked will be 2018. There is a thread on here which had the maps on which you can download and burn a copy yourself. I did mine and it's still working over 2 years later. Possibly the old drive doesn't like it. I would send the disc back and get a refund. If you are stuck, I can burn you a copy and post it to you

Yeah, as my reply above, I really thought the MMI update would enable me to load a newer DVD map disc somehow, and thought it very odd that 'NAV' was in the list, but the update didn't seem to do anything.

You're right about the link, sorry. I meant 2018 - 2019, satnavishop said was the latest one for MMI 2G. He seems a pretty decent bloke and knows his stuff.

I have contacted him about my problem with the DVD map and he said to run a disc cleaner through the player. If that was the case, why is the old DVD disc running ok?

I really don't know what I'm doing with all this 'burning' malarky :o, that's why I got the official, genuine MMI 2G update CD's from the dealer. After psyching myself up and getting all nervous about it I was surprised how smooth it all went.

I wonder what An Audi dealer would say if you bought the latest DVD map disc from them, and then told them it won't work?..........."Bring it in and we'll fix it for free" :ROFL:

Just for interest sake, how much is a dealer DVD map disc anyway?

Anyway, I'll take up your offer of a burned DVD thingy and see if has any better luck. Very kind of you Mr Simpson, thanks! +++

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